Born on 3rd

Deconstructing Racism with Saira Rao

Looking at – and owning – the truth about white privilege can be awkward, even painful, but it doesn’t have to be lonely. This episode of Born on 3rd brings us to the dinner tables where tough conversations are building community around honesty, inclusivity and respect. Host Tim Kaelin’s guest, Saira Rao, is sharing her personal journey from “pedigreed” lawyer and successful woman of color playing the Wall Street game to tireless crusader against white supremacy. As co-founders of Race2Dinner, co-authors of the must-read “White Women: Everything You Already Know About Your Own Racism and How to Do Better Paperback”, and their documentary “Deconstructing Karen”, Saira and her partner, Regina Jackson, are inviting us to get out of our comfort zones and do the work necessary to make real, sustainable change – for our kids, for the planet, for the sake of humanity. You’ll come away from this candid discussion feeling empowered to take a step, no matter how modest, towards challenging the system. In addition to providing accessible, actionable ways to get engaged, Saira illuminates the “why” behind our urgent need to break the interconnected cycles of oppression – from gun violence and misogyny to economic scarcity and religious manipulation.

If you want to be part of the change you seek – however uncomfortable it may feel – pick up a copy of Saira’s book. Watch the powerful documentary. You’ll see white privilege with a crystal clarity that can’t leave you anything other than changed. And consider sharing these resources with people you know so that they, too, can meet this reality face-to-face. The conversations that come next are where the work – and meaningful change – begin.

Interested in gathering thoughtful women around the table for candid conversation? Find out more about how to book with Race2Dinner – and learn about the organization’s other programming – by clicking on this link.

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